[14:15] <Jedimca0> Hmmm... I can't make it unless you start now... I'll be out in 20 minutes [14:15] <Jedimca0> :( [14:17] <Gonk|Busy> welll... do we know for a fact that Grae will be on at all today? [14:17] <supergeeky1> Nope, not that I know of. [14:18] <Gonk|Busy> I know: [14:18] <Gonk|Busy> We'll start the meeting now, then let it peter out for a while, and if Grae happens in, so much the better ^_^ [14:18] <supergeeky1> Hehe. [14:18] <Gonk|Busy> I bid you all COENY GREETINGS [14:18] <Gonk|Busy> Jedimca0 , any comments on our agenda items? [14:19] <Jedimca0> Hmmm... let me check. [14:20] =-= Mode #coenwiki +o Gonk|Busy by chanserv [14:20] =-= Gonk|Busy has changed the topic to “Coen Brothers Wiki IRC Chat | http://coenbrothers.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page | IRC Rules: No flaming, trolling, spamming, or bots--except for ChanServ; she really ties the room together. | The first Coenference is NOW!” [14:21] <Jedimca0> no comments, for now. :) [14:21] <Jedimca0> well... maybe one thing... there are just 2 agenda items?! :P [14:22] <Gonk|Busy> Yeah :) [14:22] <Gonk|Busy> Actually I have a 3rd [14:22] * Jedimca0 thinks the meeting will be over when he has to leave... :P [14:22] <Gonk|Busy> #1 - Emulate Wikipedia on real person article images? Or avoid doing so at all costs? [14:23] <supergeeky1> Emulate, I'd say. [14:23] <Gonk|Busy> Really? why? [14:23] <Jedimca0> Hmmm... Emulate = copy ? [14:23] <Gonk|Busy> I was gonna vote no [14:23] <supergeeky1> I really don't see why we shouldn't, to be honest. [14:23] <Gonk|Busy> No, what I mean is, should our [[Steve Buscemi]] article only have public domain images of him. [14:24] <Gonk|Busy> Meaning, shitty fan photos of the back of his head. [14:24] <Jedimca0> O_O [14:24] <Gonk|Busy> Or do we do like Wookieepedia, and just use whatever, provided we explain where it came from. [14:24] <Jedimca0> I say "real images" [14:24] <Jedimca0> per Gonk [14:24] <supergeeky1> I'd source good images. [14:25] <supergeeky1> But yeah, per Gonk.... [14:25] <Gonk|Busy> let's go with that as a working policy for now [14:25] <Jedimca0> next item? :P [14:25] <Gonk|Busy> #2 Deciding on a rumors/speculation/original research policy. I suspect we want a looser one than Wookieepedia's... but not very much looser. I have examples and hypotheses. [14:26] <Gonk|Busy> I wrote that over a month ago and have since forgotten my examples and hypotheses :) [14:26] * supergeeky1 will need to check Wookieepedia's policies on those. [14:26] <supergeeky1> Ah. :D [14:26] <Gonk|Busy> But to provide a somewhat vague example: [14:27] <Gonk|Busy> Some very crazy shit happens at the end of Barton Fink. Do we allow a section for the movie's article in which the "meaning" of certain events is speculated upon? [14:27] <Gonk|Busy> For Wookieepedia, the answer to that question would obviously be no, because [14:27] <Gonk|Busy> #1, the fanbase is too idiotic to use such freedom well, and #2 there IS no "meaning" in the film-student sense. [14:28] <supergeeky1> I vote in favor of giving very minor speculation. [14:28] <Jedimca0> I agree [14:28] <Gonk|Busy> When/if we get more users (more on that when we get to agenda item 3 :) ), I think they could probably be given a little more leeway [14:28] <Gonk|Busy> I see this wiki attracting more Pfleugery types [14:29] <Gonk|Busy> I agree too except I think we need to be clearer than "very minor speculation" [14:30] <supergeeky1> Hmm. [14:30] <Gonk|Busy> Shall we just say something about reasonable hypotheses, cited with evidence where appropriate?? [14:30] <Gonk|Busy> *meant to do one ? [14:31] <supergeeky1> That sounds alright. [14:31] <Gonk|Busy> So we don't get wacky fan theories about Walter being related to Leonard Smalls or something [14:31] <supergeeky1> Hell no. [14:31] <Jedimca0> sounds good [14:31] <supergeeky1> Sounds good. [14:31] <Gonk|Busy> ok [14:31] <Gonk|Busy> I will write something up to that general effect. [14:32] <Gonk|Busy> I will also keep the phrase "wacky fan theories" because I like it :D [14:32] <supergeeky1> :D [14:32] <Gonk|Busy> #3: Recruitment. It's obvious we can't/won't get anything done on this wiki if it's just the handful of users we currently have :) [14:32] <Gonk|Busy> I have two concrete ideas for getting the word out [14:33] <supergeeky1> I've been encouraging Madclaw to edit. He was planning on it, but something made him change his decision. [14:33] <Gonk|Busy> #1, mentioning the existence of the wiki at the appropriate time in #wikia [14:34] <Gonk|Busy> Like if we run into a technical problem, or if somebody else does and we've got a workaround on Coen, or whatever [14:35] <Gonk|Busy> #2, I was thinking about finding any Coen message boards that might exist and creating an account at one, and putting a link in my sig or something. *shrug* [14:35] <supergeeky1> That sounds good. [14:36] <Gonk|Busy> Any other ideas? [14:36] <Jedimca0> Both sound good [14:37] <supergeeky1> I really don't have any better ideas than that. [14:38] <Gonk|Busy> It's certainly safe to assume that the Coen Wiki will never have that many users. probably even fewer than Darthipedia. [14:39] <supergeeky1> But I still believe that it has the potential to find several more hard working users. [14:39] <Gonk|Busy> I concur [14:39] <Jedimca0> is there an official "Coen site" or something like that? [14:39] <Gonk|Busy> Don't you mean "several hard working users"? ;) [14:39] <supergeeky1> Lemme check. [14:39] <Gonk|Busy> Jedimca0 > I think there are a couple of major fansites [14:39] <supergeeky1> Ah, yeah. [14:39] <Jedimca0> Major fansites will work. [14:39] <Gonk|Busy> Whether the Coens themselves have an official site, dunno [14:39] <Gonk|Busy> Presumably each movie does/did. [14:40] <supergeeky1> http://www.coenbrothers.net/ [14:41] <Gonk|Busy> hmm [14:41] <Gonk|Busy> Looks kind of like a one-man show. [14:41] <Gonk|Busy> Is it official? [14:41] <supergeeky1> Nope, doesn't look like it. [14:42] <supergeeky1> Official friendship? [14:42] <Gonk|Busy> Sure [14:44] <supergeeky1> We have a link on Wikipedia? [14:44] <supergeeky1> When did that happen? [14:44] <Gonk|Busy> We do? [14:44] <Jedimca0> O_O [14:44] <Jedimca0> link? [14:44] <supergeeky1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coen_Brothers#External_links [14:45] <Jedimca0> cool [14:45] <supergeeky1> I've almost found the person who added it. [14:46] <supergeeky1> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coen_Brothers&diff=182872952&oldid=182623234 [14:46] <supergeeky1> Anon. [14:46] <supergeeky1> Cool. [14:46] <Jedimca0> anyway, I have to go. [14:46] <supergeeky1> See ya, Jedi. [14:46] <Gonk|Busy> Thanks for coming [14:46] <Gonk|Busy> :) [14:46] <supergeeky1> :D [14:46] <Gonk|Busy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/188.8.131.52 [14:46] <Gonk|Busy> lol [14:47] <supergeeky1> Quinlanfan?! [14:47] <Jedimca0> Bye everyone? [14:47] <Gonk|Busy> O_o [14:47] <supergeeky1> Oh, no. [14:47] <supergeeky1> Graestan. [14:47] <Jedimca0> bah... -? [14:47] <Gonk|Busy> Ciao [14:47] <supergeeky1> Graestan added it. [14:47] <supergeeky1> XD [14:47] <supergeeky1> See ya. [14:47] <Gonk|Busy> How can you tell? [14:47] <supergeeky1> His edit to Category talk:Christian denominations. [14:48] <supergeeky1> I was there when he made that edit. [14:48] <--| Jedimca0 has left #coenwiki [14:48] * Gonk|Busy shakes his head http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scrooged&diff=prev&oldid=31295041 [14:48] <Gonk|Busy> A and In should not be capitalized. [14:48] <supergeeky1> lol [14:49] <Gonk|Busy> Is this working for you? http://forum.coenbrothers.net/ [14:49] <supergeeky1> Nope. [14:50] <Gonk|Busy> http://www.coenbrothers.net/home.html [14:50] <supergeeky1> Official website? [14:51] <Gonk|Busy> No, same site [14:51] <supergeeky1> Oh. [14:52] <Gonk|Busy> hm, new agenda item [14:52] <Gonk|Busy> Should we maybe not have portals for movies that aren't 100% confirmed yet? [14:52] <Gonk|Busy> Such as "The Yiddish Policemen's Union"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coen_Brothers#Upcoming_and_planned_films [14:53] <supergeeky1> I wouldn't add portals until the movies have at the very least started filming. [14:53] * Gonk|Busy nods [14:53] <Gonk|Busy> that makes sense. Script phase = not yet confirmed enough [14:55] <Gonk|Busy> Oh, and item #5: QOTW -> QOTM ? :) [14:56] <supergeeky1> lol, yeah. [14:56] <supergeeky1> It's completely slipped my mind to update it each week. [14:56] <Gonk|Busy> I also think maybe our FAs should be changed "when there's a worthy candidate" and not necessarily regularly [14:56] <supergeeky1> Exactly. [14:59] <supergeeky1> So, any other items on the agenda? :D [14:59] <Gonk|Busy> Nah, let's wait and see if Grae shows up
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